this madman who walked into this school in this -- in sandy coat conn, got off north of one other rounds in about 10 minutes -- as another tragedy is, what possibly caused the interruption of shooting was the exchange of magazines. that is what stopped the shooting and that was the same in tucson theaurora. if you had to change clips 10 times to get off 100 rounds of rather than twice, there is a lot more opportunities for that shooting to stop. some of these guys get a sense of false courage from walking into a school or a movie theater or a church with an assault weapon in the first place. they did not have access to that high-capacity powerful weapon, they might not have started of the shooting at all. i think and the families and newtown believe that had assault weapons ban illegal under the terms that we are proposing now it is likely there will be kids alive and new town today. this law we're talking about now, i believe absolutely would have made the difference. host: senator chris murphy is serving on the health, education, and pensions committee and the joint economic committee